and what's happening is that womes healthcare is suffering. their decision-making is being threatened. they're losing dignity and self-determination. so this creates many barriers for our women to be healthy and make choices that they want for their families. >> and your experience is it is harder today than it was 20 years ago, 30 years ago? >> i think something like more than 930% of all counties don have abortion providers. i want to point out that most probably that many counties also don't have birthing centers, where women can go and have an alternative to an over-medicalized birth. >> so when you're targeting clinics that provide abortion care, those clinics are also providing prenatal care, they're providing cervical cancer screenings, they're providing breast screenings, and sexuality education. so when you're targeting those clinics and those clinics have to shut down, you're also depriving a whole community from basic, basic health services that are critical. >> i wanted to ask you, you talked about economic issues involved in these